Tuesday, April 2, 2013

Lubricating Oil and difference between 15W40 and 20W40.

Hey Friends!


We are regularly change our bike oil. Mostly our friends suggest us different company names to use their lubricating oil. All oils are intended for an application and in general are not interchangeable. You would not for example put an Automatic Transmission Oil or a Gear Oil in your engine! It is important to know what the oils intended purpose is.

Viscosity


Most oils on the shelves today are Multi grades, which simply means that the oil falls into 2 viscosity grades (i.e. 10w-40 etc)
Multi grades were first developed some 50 years ago to avoid the old routine of using a thinner oil in winter and a thicker oil in summer.
In a 10W-40 for example the 10W bit (W = winter, not weight or watt or anything else for that matter) simply means that the oil must have a certain maximum viscosity/flow at low temperature. The lower the “W” number the better the oils cold temperature/cold start performance.
The 40 in a 10W-40 simply means that the oil must fall within certain viscosity limits at 100 degC. This is a fixed limit and all oils that end in 40 must achieve these limits. Once again the lower the number the thinner the oil, a 30 oil is thinner than a 40 oil at 100 degC etc. Your handbook will specify whether a 30, 40 or 50 etc is required.

Specifications

Specifications are important as these indicate the performance of the oil and whether they have met or passed the latest tests or whether the formulation is effectively obsolete or out of date. There are two specifications that you should look for on any oil bottle and these are API (American Petroleum Institute]) and ACEA (Association des Constructeurs Europeens d’Automobiles) all good oils should contain both of these and an understanding of what they mean is important.

API

This is the more basic as it is split (for passenger cars) into two catagories. S = Petrol and C = Diesel, most oils carry both petrol (S) and diesel (C) specifications.
The following table shows how up to date the specifications the oil are:

PETROL

SG Introduced 1989 has much more active dispersant to combat black sludge
SH Introduced 1993 has same engine tests as SG, but includes phosphorus limit 0.12%, together with control of foam, volatility and shear stability
SJ Introduced 1996 has the same engine tests as SG/SH, but phosphorus limit 0.10% together with variation on volatility limits
SL Introduced 2001, all new engine tests reflective of modern engine designs meeting current emissions standards
SM Introduced November 2004, improved oxidation resistance, deposit protection and wear protection, also better low temperature performance over the life of the oil compared to previous categories
Note:
All specifications prior to SL are now obsolete and although suitable for some older vehicles are more than 10 years old and do not provide the same level of performance or protection as the more up to date SL and SM specifications.

DIESEL

CD Introduced 1955, international standard for turbo diesel engine oils for many years, uses single cylinder test engine only
CE Introduced 1984, improved control of oil consumption, oil thickening, piston deposits and wear, uses additional multi cylinder test engines
CF4 Introduced 1990, further improvements in control of oil consumption and piston deposits, uses low emission test engine
CF Introduced 1994, modernised version of CD, reverts to single cylinder low emission test engine. Intended for certain indirect injection engines
CF2 Introduced 1994, defines effective control of cylinder deposits and ring face scuffing, intended for 2 stroke diesel engines
CG4 Introduced 1994, development of CF4 giving improved control of piston deposits, wear, oxidation stability and soot entrainment. Uses low sulphur diesel fuel in engine tests
CH4 Introduced 1998, development of CG4, giving further improvements in control of soot related wear and piston deposits, uses more comprehensive engine test program to include low and high sulphur fuels
CI4 Introduced 2002, developed to meet 2004 emission standards, may be used where EGR ( exhaust gas recirculation ) systems are fitted and with fuel containing up to 0.5 % sulphur. May be used where API CD, CE, CF4, CG4 and CH4 oils are specified.

Note: All specifications prior to CH4 are now obsolete and although suitable for some older vehicles are more than 10 years old and do not provide the same level of performance or protection as the more up to date CH4 & CI4 specifications.
If you want a better more up to date oil specification then look for SL, SM, CH4, CI4

ACEA

This is the European equivalent of API (US) and is more specific in what the performance of the oil actually is. A = Petrol, B = Diesel and C = Catalyst compatible or low SAPS (Sulphated Ash, Phosphorus and Sulphur).
Unlike API the ACEA specs are split into performance/application catagories as follows:
A1 Fuel economy petrol
A2 Standard performance level (now obsolete)
A3 High performance and/or extended drain
A4 Reserved for future use in certain direct injection engines
A5 Combines A1 fuel economy with A3 performance
B1 Fuel economy diesel
B2 Standard performance level (now obsolete)
B3 High performance and/or extended drain
B4 For direct injection car diesel engines
B5 Combines B1 fuel economy with B3/B4 performance
C1-04 Petrol and Light duty Diesel engines, based on A5/B5-04 low SAPS, two way catalyst compatible.
C2-04 Petrol and light duty Diesel engines, based on A5/B5-04 mid SAPS, two way catalyst compatible.
C3-04 Petrol and light duty Diesel engines, based on A5/B5-04 mid SAPS, two way catalyst compatible, Higher performance levels due to higher HTHS.
Note: SAPS = Sulphated Ash, Phosphorous and Sulphur.
Put simply, A3/B3, A5/B5 and C3 oils are the better quality, stay in grade performance oils.

Approvals

Many oils mention various OEM’s on the bottle, the most common in the UK being VW, MB or BMW but do not be misled into thinking that you are buying a top oil because of this.
Oil Companies send their oils to OEM’s for approval however some older specs are easily achieved and can be done so with the cheapest of mineral oils. Newer specifications are always more up to date and better quality/performance than the older ones.
Some of the older OEM specifications are listed here and depending on the performance level of your car are best ignored if you are looking for a quality high performance oil:
VW – 500.00, 501.00 and 505.00
Later specs like 503, 504, 506 and 507 are better performing more up to date oils
MB – 229.1
Later specs like 229.3 and 229.5 are better performing more up to date oils.
BMW – LL98
Later specs like LL01 and LL04 are better performing more up to date oils.

Finally

Above is the most accurate guidance I can give without going into too much depth however there is one final piece of advice regarding the labelling.
Certain statements are made that are meaningless and just marketing blurb, here are a few to avoid!
Recommended for use where.........
May be used where the following specifications apply..........
Approved by..........(but with no qualification)
Recommended/Approved by (some famous person, these endorsements are paid for)
Racing/Track formula (but with no supporting evidence)
Also be wary of statements like “synthetic blend” if you are looking for a fully synthetic oil as this will merely be a semi-synthetic.
Like everything in life, you get what you pay for and the cheaper the oil the cheaper the ingredients and lower the performance levels.

Difference between 15W40 and 20W40


15w-40 has a cold cranking wieght of 15... (w for winter) and is a 40 weight at operating temp, so it'll flow a little better then the 20w-40. Synthetic oils usually come in a wider range of viscositys like 0w-30, 5w-40 and such. Takes alot... too much volume index improvers and such for conventional, that the oil would go out of grade in no time... different manufacturers have a small difference in wieghts... one may be a high 40 wieght, the other a low 40 weight at operating temp. Just sticking with name brands insure quality.
Only the weight of the oil, 20W40 is thicker than the 15W40, 20W40 is the best oil for the old cars although 15W40 is very easier cold start ...

Parker Lubricants 20W40


The new Parker  race 4T 20W40 with ECG protection technology has been specially developed for today's demanding 4 -stroke motorcycle engines.It has been formulated with special additives to give all round protection for your bike's engine,clutch and gear. (Visit on: http://parkerlubricants.in)

Parker Lubricants 4T+ 10W40


Parker Lubricants Race 4T+ 10W30 has high viscosity index base stocks and with superior additives has been specially developed for today's demanding 4-stroke motorcycle engines. This oil has been designed to meet the highest available specifications to give all round protection for your bike. (Visit on: http://parkerlubricants.in)


59 comments:

  1. Lubricating oil plays a vital role in both petrol and diesel engines! Very well explained about it in the post!!

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    1. Thank you I got much idea on lubricants and someof my doubts are clear once again thanks

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  2. hi I am Sisir ,
    i have 10 cst pure synthetic silicon oil ,can i use it for my bike engine oil.

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  4. can we use motul320vfactory line15w40 engine oil in yamaha fz's..

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    1. you can use easily this type of grade oil.

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  8. We the FZs owners r recommended to use 20w40 by manual, but 2010 onwards builts can b use 15w50 yamalube, nd it s far better than 20w40.

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  9. We the FZs owners r recommended to use 20w40 by manual, but 2010 onwards builts can b use 15w50 yamalube, nd it s far better than 20w40.

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  10. I have 15w40 diesel generator oil. Some generator technician told me dis oil also use for my bike discover dtsi 100cc bike. Can i use dis oil. Plz help me

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  11. Hi sir I have royal Enfield 350cc petrol 2014model company suggest me use 15w40 but can I use 15w50 reply me

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  12. Hi sir I have royal Enfield 350cc petrol 2014model company suggest me use 15w40 but can I use 15w50 reply me

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  13. Hi sir., which temperature engine oil grade 20W40 fails????

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  14. can you guide us to prepare our own brand of lubricant oils (oil formation with needful dosage of additives)

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  15. can i use 15w40 ride engine oil for splender plus 100cc in summer time in june13 2016 if i compare with 20w40 castrol active engine oil,please tell me what is better in both

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  16. can i use 15w40 ride engine oil for splender plus 100cc in summer time in june13 2016 if i compare with 20w40 castrol active engine oil,please tell me what is better in both

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  17. What is equivalent of 4t 15w40 in mobil lubricants

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  18. What is equivalent of 4t 15w40 in mobil lubricants

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  19. Sir I have 380kva, 1500rpm diesel generator, 15w-40 n 20w-40, which one I should choose????

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  20. Hello Sir kindly anyone suggest me any other SAE20W40 engine oil (Mineral/Semi-Synthetic/Synthetic) other than this YAMALUBE(using from purchase of this bike) for my 2011 YAMAHA SZ-R 40,000 kms covered ? I need change for my bike.

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  24. can we mix 15W40, 20W40 together ???
    or if by chance we mixed both oil poured one bottle of each spec in one engine ?? any problems ?? or does it need to replaced ??

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